I am amazed at how "php is a shit language" is still such a thing, in any listing or discussion, especially of the "what should a noob learn" variety.

Yaknow... it powers the damn web. If you wanna do web, do php. It's actually pretty good.

And if you're planning on doing something else in CS, maybe it's not even relevant.

@datawench I'm baffled whenever that sentiment comes up. Particularly in professional contexts. It's almost always voiced by someone who either doesn't actually know PHP, or uses it daily but doesn't know it well enough to be comfortable.

It often feels like someone throwing shade to hide their own inadequacies as an engineer.

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